Afrim till now, can you assume you had some positive cognitive change from piracetam?

I think that your dosages are still pretty high (taking in comparation of what other people normally takes), remember that some people has the same (or better) effect with "microdoses" .. of less than 1 gram! (me for example)... because i didn't take the powder piracetam, i only could buy the 800 mg pills.

You should give a try someday!

Cheers

Afrim Wrote: "Nov. 17" ['should have been']--> "Nov. 19". (That's what happens when one does not celebrate the getting of a Doctor of Philosophy in Physics

...Have you noticed your awareness of what day it is (and your handwriting) get worse the more qualifications you get? LOL  :  )

It was mostly the acquisition of a piece of sheet (view it as a "card") that may give me easier access to better tools, services/surroundings).

I haven't found this to be true in UK; the best source of access is still mates. It may be a better ticket to access where you are.

Concretely, about a year ago I proposed to the university where i am getting this piece of sheet that I teach a new subject there: "Physics of the Human Body". I learned that I couldn't teach that subject there if I didn't have a Ph.D. degree.

That's pretty normal in the TE. One cannot teach publicly in UK even with a PhD unless one has GCSE maths as well, which I steadfastly refuse to take  :  )  But there's nothing to stop you sharing your knowledge online! (and you may find keener students)

I think I still would have continued to pursue my quest toward neuro/body-hacking 'myself' to a better state (healthier, happier and with the prospect of staying around for a long time). : ) AA

It's the only way to travel  :  )
Best,
AR

Sakiro wrote:

Alex, the 'positive effects', that some people gets taking piracetam (example, some people feels they have more verbal fluidity, and thought'flows' easier) are only experienced when someone is taking it (the drug), or are evidence of some kind of "internal change" (in the brain)? ... I mean some positive change that last when someone LEAVES the drug.

Sometimes i can't avoid to imagine the anology of anabolics with grow muscle, when the effects only last when someone is taking it ..BUT ..in that period someone has more strenght, better protein synthesis etc etc, and can grow muscle faster and train harder when is taking it .. and when they stop taking it, they 'keep' a big part of the 'gains made' ..

Can taking nootropics be employed to achieve something like this? .. Or the actual nootropic are not enough advanced for such 'comparation'?

Because if not .. i see it more like a cup of coffe, when you only take it when you need a boost, wake up, or something like that ..

At the moment i'm writing this, i remember a post of you when you said that drugs must be used only to achived some particular state of mind or to 'enhance' it ..

[sakiro wrote]
the piracetam scare is nothing--it is a misconception on the part of the company who received the letter--or it is purposefully misconstrued in order to raise sales. Either way, Piracetam is still purchasable, and the rumors should end.

Well spotted sir  :  )
It never occurred to me to look into this  :  )  because I always tend to automatically assume such explanations are probably bollox and what's really happened is that some dumbass has badly overstocked on a product, the sell by dates are fast approaching, and they're too embarrassed to tell their customers that's why they're trying to sell it off cheap.

The main reason for the reference (for me) was the wholesale price of a useful substance for those who can't make it at home for nothing, from a reliable dealer who is known for genuine products. I don't tend to follow up any of the political/legal/commercial melodrama behind offers like this because even if it is true it makes little difference to smart folks anyway, but I included the paragraph as it was sent due to lack of time to write any other introduction (it seemed a bit spammy  to say “Oy dudes, cheap piracetam here” without an explanation).

So due to complete and deliberate inattention, I missed the rumors and wasn't aware of any scare. Assuming that everyone else is telepathic or will automatically assume the same things I assume is of course a bad habit and I shall try to address it in future!
Best,
AR

Sakiro wrote:
Alex, the 'positive effects', that some people gets taking piracetam (example, some people feels they have more verbal fluidity, and thought'flows' easier) are only experienced when someone is taking it (the drug), or are evidence of some kind of "internal change" (in the brain)?

Most improvement in function is due to internal change in the brain, and all drugs the brain is exposed to cause internal change. Repeated use of new pathways is what makes changes permanent. Obviously, not all internal change improves functions  :  )
[s]
... I mean some positive change that last when someone LEAVES the drug. Sometimes i can't avoid to imagine the anology of anabolics with grow muscle, when the effects only last when someone is taking it ..BUT ..in that period someone has more strenght, better protein synthesis etc etc, and can grow muscle faster and train harder when is taking it .. and when they stop taking it, they 'keep' a big part of the 'gains made' .. Can taking nootropics be employed to achieve something like this? .. Or the actual nootropic are not enough advanced for such 'comparation'?

No you are right on with this one, but the mechanism is often unknown even to those involved. The secret of keeping the gains is use. Without continued use, signals to the genome will stop and all new gains will atrophy, whether they be material gains like extra muscle or synapses, or physical/mental skill gains. Use it in the right way, or lose it  :  )

Nutrition is an important factor too. Folks who eat low GI and continue working out after stopping steroids keep their muscle and improve the tone. Folks who eat high GI, stop working out and give up steroids turn into lard asses and head down the diabetes road, often with chronic arthritis.

[s]
Because if not .. i see it more like a cup of coffe, when you only take it when you need a boost, wake up, or something like that ..

Maybe YOU only take it when you need a boost, but Coffee is a very powerful drug...
It is a CNS stimulant, it acts directly upon the  heart, increases the frequency of the pulse, and sustains the strength under prolonged and severe muscular exertion. It is an antisoporific, and is used in narcotic poisoning and spasmodic asthma. Fresh roasted coffee, freshly ground, is also a valuable disinfectant. It can enhance the body's resistance to urinary tract infections. It is used in many supplements, such as preparations to lose weight, and is part of many drugs, such as painkillers, antibacterials, and antihistamines.
Caffeine has vasoconstrictive properties that reduce the inflammation of pericranial vessels, and some studies show evidence that it can protect against Alzheimers disease, Parkinsons disease, heart disease, diabetes 2, cirrhosis, and gout.

Caffeine blocks the inhibitory effects of adenosine on dopamine receptors and can reduce feelings of depression.

It contains about 30 compounds with antioxidant properties and beta-sisosterol which has febrifuge (fever reducing) properties. Coffee has many components with diuretic properties and can be used for treatment of fluid retention. It is used as a common remedy to combat obesity.

The amount of caffeine contained in 3 lbs of coffee, if extracted and administered pure, is sufficient to kill a human.

[s]
At the moment i'm writing this, i remember a post of you when you said that drugs must be used only to achived some particular state of mind or to 'enhance' it ..

I have never said this, and would never claim that anything “must” only be used for specific purposes, because everyone is different and nothing is a must for everyone. Drugs can be used for all sorts of reasons and methods (as you can see from exploring the properties of coffee above), and most drugs are still mostly used for saving lives and treating a lot of nasty diseases, rather than for engineering mental agility  :  )

I have said that drugs are used most advantageously for showing you an example of mental states that you can then learn to achieve without the drugs, because autonomy is always to our advantage and dependence is always against it.
Best,
AR

Alex wrote:

Sakiro wrote:
Alex, the 'positive effects', that some people gets taking piracetam (example, some people feels they have more verbal fluidity, and thought'flows' easier) are only experienced when someone is taking it (the drug), or are evidence of some kind of "internal change" (in the brain)?

Most improvement in function is due to internal change in the brain, and all drugs the brain is exposed to cause internal change. Repeated use of new pathways is what makes changes permanent. Obviously, not all internal change improves functions  :  )
[s]
... I mean some positive change that last when someone LEAVES the drug. Sometimes i can't avoid to imagine the anology of anabolics with grow muscle, when the effects only last when someone is taking it ..BUT ..in that period someone has more strenght, better protein synthesis etc etc, and can grow muscle faster and train harder when is taking it .. and when they stop taking it, they 'keep' a big part of the 'gains made' .. Can taking nootropics be employed to achieve something like this? .. Or the actual nootropic are not enough advanced for such 'comparation'?

No you are right on with this one, but the mechanism is often unknown even to those involved. The secret of keeping the gains is use. Without continued use, signals to the genome will stop and all new gains will atrophy, whether they be material gains like extra muscle or synapses, or physical/mental skill gains. Use it in the right way, or lose it  :  )

Nutrition is an important factor too. Folks who eat low GI and continue working out after stopping steroids keep their muscle and improve the tone. Folks who eat high GI, stop working out and give up steroids turn into lard asses and head down the diabetes road, often with chronic arthritis.

[s]
Because if not .. i see it more like a cup of coffe, when you only take it when you need a boost, wake up, or something like that ..

Maybe YOU only take it when you need a boost, but Coffee is a very powerful drug...
It is a CNS stimulant, it acts directly upon the  heart, increases the frequency of the pulse, and sustains the strength under prolonged and severe muscular exertion. It is an antisoporific, and is used in narcotic poisoning and spasmodic asthma. Fresh roasted coffee, freshly ground, is also a valuable disinfectant. It can enhance the body's resistance to urinary tract infections. It is used in many supplements, such as preparations to lose weight, and is part of many drugs, such as painkillers, antibacterials, and antihistamines.
Caffeine has vasoconstrictive properties that reduce the inflammation of pericranial vessels, and some studies show evidence that it can protect against Alzheimers disease, Parkinsons disease, heart disease, diabetes 2, cirrhosis, and gout.

Caffeine blocks the inhibitory effects of adenosine on dopamine receptors and can reduce feelings of depression.

It contains about 30 compounds with antioxidant properties and beta-sisosterol which has febrifuge (fever reducing) properties. Coffee has many components with diuretic properties and can be used for treatment of fluid retention. It is used as a common remedy to combat obesity.

The amount of caffeine contained in 3 lbs of coffee, if extracted and administered pure, is sufficient to kill a human.

[s]
At the moment i'm writing this, i remember a post of you when you said that drugs must be used only to achived some particular state of mind or to 'enhance' it ..

I have never said this, and would never claim that anything “must” only be used for specific purposes, because everyone is different and nothing is a must for everyone. Drugs can be used for all sorts of reasons and methods (as you can see from exploring the properties of coffee above), and most drugs are still mostly used for saving lives and treating a lot of nasty diseases, rather than for engineering mental agility  :  )

I have said that drugs are used most advantageously for showing you an example of mental states that you can then learn to achieve without the drugs, because autonomy is always to our advantage and dependence is always against it.
Best,
AR

has been [occured to me that 'it' may not be neccessary] few months that I haven't participated in this forum.

About 4 months ago I finished the 6-kg piracetam. On average, in less than a year, I took about 20-30g of Piracetam daily. My overall impression of piracetam: It keeps mind/body more active/creative (improves verbal communication; lately i felt that i was rusty in speaking and i thought "maybe i "should" get some more of that 'stuff'[piractem]", and so I did get 4kg today and plan to intake roughly 10-20 g daily). 

Somehow,right now and in general too, i don't know what to say. I guess i simply put a period on this sentence. ... and then say:)
cheers!