Yes, for me, awareness of anxiety was/is the first step to start to taking control (input control) of it.

And i'm not very sure of this, but i'm think if you have anxiety problems, training N3 (your imagination/visualization) i think that have  the potential to be a problem if you are not carefull, from my personal experience i think that i have strong visualization/imagination skills, and sometimes that can backfire on me because the anxiety that i have in x moment "use" that skills to create shitty possible scenarios and the body you now can't tell the difference of what you imagine and what is being "real" because as far as i know, it uses the same part of the brain to imagine and perception of real stuff (that thing i read in the tutorial of imagination) and is like a bad cycle. Makes sense?

What is helping me to do that? (still working!)

Doing the things in the right order (I mean, dont train n3, before i have build up N1-N2)

Exercises (specially intense aerobic)

Mindfulness Meditation

Still need to work in being constant

Cheers

This is a great idea for a thread and for me could work like co counseling!


Being sociable whilst trying to avoid bad input at the same time has been one of the greatest challenges for me.

The sound of children crying goes via my unconscious either straight to my fist (and induces me to plant it firmly in the face of the ignoring parent), or straight to my legs (which run away). Obviously this is not acceptable social behavior, so I've had to learn distraction mechanisms but sometimes they don't work and I still have to leave. It's quite a good test of how 'together' I am at any given moment.

I still get periodic real distress at the behavior and state of many human beings, but on the other hand I feel facing up to the real shitstorm that is humanity is what gives us appreciation of our own lives (thank fuck I'm not that dumbass dude), pride in our accomplishments (thank fuck I'm not that dumbass dude any more) and self esteem (I'm going in the right direction, and I'm a lot more aware of the anxiety issues of dumbassed dudes).

More importantly, I think it also gives us awe at the adventure of intelligence that so few get free enough to participate in, and satisfaction that our progress is becoming ever more apparent to us and we feel more and more in control, calmer, and free from artifice. 

Maybe seeing and facing the truth literally shocks the shit right out of us! LOL  :  )

What I need is more oxytocin  :  )  But I'd really like to start producing more myself, because of healthy input, rather than just dosing up...ah, decisions, decisions...

I'm not gonna talk about the school system because for me it was a concentration camp, pure and simple. And I found the tunnel, Sarge! it's this way...

Its a real adventure innit?

Tummy pains are caused by the anxiety; remember, cortisol shuts down the digestive system to prioritize the peripheral muscles & bones for fight/flight response. It causes immediate indigestion and muscle cramps if there's any food in there. In babies, it's called 'colic' and people think it's normal.

The sort of awareness you are developing -being aware of these symptoms right when they are happening, and their cause, is the very feedback experience that enables you to get control of them and reduce anxiety. This is why we tell newbies 'you have to have the experience' -you cannot learn control from a book. Thanks for posting this, it will help others recognize feedback in themselves.

Best,
AR

alex:

Adventure? Yeah.

It's possible I was stressing to not stress.


meta process:

I know. Would you have any tips on where to find intelligent people? What if I have so much anxiety within me that it is difficult to be with people without any anxiety or tension even if there's no talking? I feel it's the truth of the situation as I now have anxiety over the smallest of thoughts even though I'm getting better and better at relaxing and finding out a bit more about what made me anxious.

Could it not be that my ability to have interactional conversation that does not concern myself or my life is not there at the moment and so I should just concentrate on myself until nature directs me towards that?

Hi dudes,
Really this is mainly a reply to Meta Process some posts ago, but it is relevant to other posts...

On being surrounded with intelligent people doing intelligent things, you're talking to the already convinced here!
But being part of the Homeworld Network has taught me a lot -and one main thing is that only a small number of visitors here are aware of the reality of their situation and have plans to change it. Almost all of our guests are still firmly stuck in the TE and I would describe them as 'slightly confused' about what they really want to do, and as not fully understanding either the fact that they do have a choice or what HW is really about.

It is about making the pursuit of entelechy more important in your life than anything else, and understanding how emergent intelligence works.

It's about believing that truth is our first duty, to be recorded and explained for the benefit of future generations, to be studied and learned from others' records in the past, but most of all to live by in the here and now. A life freed from bullshit is so exciting and serene, there is no better quality of life.

It is also of course about all the fun things you can do with your friends while pursuing that path, such as living on hovercrafts, hacking into the matrix, running pirate broadcasts on space stations or trying to keep out of the way of the Imperial Fleet.  :  )

But in depth it's about what we really need, to reach our full potential. We need things like real emotion, real interaction, real learning, real relationships, real morality and real love. We cannot get these things by looking in places they don't exist, no matter how long we look. There is no place 'to go' to gather with people who prioritize intelligence; which is exactly why we must create it.
That we have a chance to do so is absolutely marvelous, but it still requires courage to make the leap, and we can only go halfway...because we don't want to encourage the likes of Cypher  :  )

It all comes down to how much of the unknown an individual can face and how stuck (ie, hoodwinked by the TE) they currently are.

We are getting some serious topic drift here btw; I suggest we leave 'personal news' for, well, personal news and discuss this in the lab under the heading "difficulties of intelligent interaction". I'll repost this there.
Best,
AR

Meta Process:

I don't get why you feel redundant in this context? I don't see any problem in anything anyone has posted here. This is not so much advice as information, and getting multiple pov is exactly what helps folks think of their own pov and get on their own course. All of your suggestions are positive and all I can really see in these posts is that we agree with each other. Am I missing something?  :  )

Afaik we are all, to varying extents, stuck with the TE in our lives, because we currently live in this society and it's in your face whenever you leave the countryside even if you're not involved with it. It's in your face all day if you have a television, or look up news sites online, or talk to other humans who are stuck in it to the extent they are swimming in raw sewage  :  )

We also all face the anxiety dragon and it is astonishing how all-pervasive the bugger can be when you really start looking at what its doing to you and how it can twist your whole behavior without you wanting it to. I, too would have loved information from you when I was starting out! Just knowing you are not alone is a big help, being able to say to your mates, "Anxiety, what a c***", that's helpful to me. And believe me, what you are saying is always valuable; communication is the helpful thing.

To add to the notes: I too have found musicians, on the whole, to be a bit more sane than most people, but mostly the older generation of musicians as a lot of those I meet nowadays are not interested in music so much as money and marketing themselves. There was definitely less racism and sexism and more open minded thinking in the music world, when I was in it.

There was also a great deal more light-heartedness and a robust attitude to multinationals' property. And cheaper drugs. Always invite lots of musicians to your parties, as they generally have good drugs with them.

I also use the 'camoflage and inflitrate' hack of dressing like bruce wayne in public, not least because well-dressed people get mugged a lot less often than guys in hoodies and jeans. Sounds weird because the poor guys have less money to steal, but robbers are more afraid of the comeback if you look wealthy (ie, the cops may actually give a shit)  :  )

I've had the opposite experience to you with regard to finding cheerful people in places by the sea though, but in UK the seaside means loads of drunk tourists beating each other up, sexually harassing the few sunbathers who don't weigh 6 tonnes, and nicking wallets. So don't do the beach in the UK  :  )
Best,
AR

PS I don't get the morpheus bit either...
...maybe I'm having a particularly dumb day?  :  )

Aha! Dudes, I have just figured out my confusion  :  )

...I was actually replying to a post EMPATHIA wrote several posts ago, NOT Meta Process. Empathia was asking, "where can I find intelligent people".
Sorry! My bad. It's my birthday tomorrow and I've been practicing getting wrecked; that's probably the reason, or at least the excuse LOL  :  )
AR